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haertig
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SAFES: Anyone familiar with "SturdySafe"?
10/07/09 at 17:17:17
 
http://www.sturdysafe.com/
 
You seem to get a lot more for your money from these guys.  7 or 8 guage walls, 1/4" or 5/16" doors, 14 gauge inner walls, full length welds, heavy duty insulation, robust locking mechanisms, doors that clamp down as the bolts are tightened, fully covered by warrantee.
 
I'm also considering Liberty Lincoln series, something by Fort Knox (if they'd ever bother sending me the info I requested!), or something from American Security (Amsec).  These better known big names in safes are good, but you end up paying several thousand more for what would appear to be equivalent security/fireresistance to the SturdySafe offerings.  I'm trying to stay in the $1500 - $2500 price range, and that severly limits what you can get from AmSec or Ft Knox.  You can get into a nice size Liberty Lincoln or SturdySafe at the mid-upper end of that price range however.
 
Are their other brands to consider in this price range? Looking for something plus or minus 60"x36"x30" with good security and good fireproofing.  750-1100 lb range (I think).  I may look at some cheaper alternatives, but this is a pretty comfortable cost range and I think I should be able to get a very good midrange safe in this cost range.
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Reply #1 - 11/04/09 at 22:46:17
 
Don't know if you're still looking for input but I was looking at safes a few years ago and came to the same conclusion. Sturdy safes seem to be the best  buy.  The guy is also very honest in saying that the safe protecting your belongings in a total burn down is far from guaranteed and depends on alot of variables.  I'm convinced their fireproofing is much better than the sheetrock used in most residential safes.  The 7(0.1793) or 8(0.1644 ) gauge is also a big plus over the standard 10(0.1345) or 12(0.1046) of most other residential safes. I remember seeing a video of a guy kicking over a Liberty safe and gaining access through the side of it with a fire ax in a very short period of time. Also like a local locksmith/safe repair man said no safe is unaccessable just some take longer and require better tools.  But most break ins are smash and grabs and like he said most never attempt to get in the safe and those that do usually attack the door or lock which is usually the most secure. I ended up going with a cannon a guy was selling locally for too good of price to pass up. Which in my suituation is probaly good enough. Whatever you decide good luck moving it as depending where your putting it can be a pain. Renting a Uhaul refridgerator hand truck (about 25 bucks around here) or using pipes to roll it on can make things go alot easier. Also you may want to look into a eva-dry dehumidifier as mine does a nice job you just have to dry it out by plugging it in every couple weeks or so depending. The upside over a heat rod is no cord needs to penetrate the safe. Good luck.
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Reply #2 - 11/04/09 at 23:43:53
 
Thanks for posting your experiences.  We have not bought a safe yet.  Still doing intermittant research on them.  It's not a high priority for us right now, but probably in the next few months we'll buy one.  We do not have a lot of expensive stuff to store in the safe, nor are we in a high risk environment. I still think it's a smart choice to get a decent safe though.  Not extravagant, but good to very-good.
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Reply #3 - 11/05/09 at 16:50:28
 
I know what your saying, I was able to place mine where fire isn't much of a concern but even so I would feel much more comfortable with the Sturdy safe's fireproofing.  If you do go with the Sturdy safe it would be great if you could post what you think of it as I might be in the market for one down the road. Also if you find another one that looks good. Here is another brand that looked really good.  
 
 http://www.pentagonsafes.com/index_pentagon.htm  
 
They can be had with 1/4 inch bodies and also use ceramic insulation instead of dry wall.
 
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Reply #4 - 11/06/09 at 16:02:33
 
YES Sturdy Safe is the best, hands down, get the fire liner and largest you can accomidate, you will NOT be dissapointed, HIGH quality, smooth and they supply national guard and other millitary small armorys Go for it!
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Reply #5 - 11/13/09 at 14:02:18
 
I have been considering a safe purchase also, and have looked all over.  This video, definetly makes me wonder though
 
 
http://www.thompsonsafes.com/soshigh.htm
 
 
 
I was looking at some similar to this last week at Gander Mountain, looks like i need to do more research now   Sad
 
 
 
 
 
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Reply #6 - 11/13/09 at 23:21:09
 
Quote from burbanman on 11/13/09 at 14:02:18:
I have been considering a safe purchase also, and have looked all over.  This video, definetly makes me wonder though


http://www.thompsonsafes.com/soshigh.htm



I was looking at some similar to this last week at Gander Mountain, looks like i need to do more research now   Sad


 
This video only makes me wonder, who in their right mind has a $1000 safe that is not bolted in, or at least against a wall?  This video is crap, the first thing they do is push safe over backwards, Duh, there would be a wall there!  Then they have to use the totality of their combined body weight.  Sorry this video is just rubbish.
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Reply #7 - 11/14/09 at 10:26:13
 
Quote from nbh40 on 11/13/09 at 23:21:09:


This video only makes me wonder, who in their right mind has a $1000 safe that is not bolted in, or at least against a wall?  This video is crap, the first thing they do is push safe over backwards, Duh, there would be a wall there!  Then they have to use the totality of their combined body weight.  Sorry this video is just rubbish.

 
While I agree that bolting the safe down would be better, It is still pretty sad how easy teh door was able to be pried open.  I have also seen the videos of safes being opened with just a carbide tipped blade on a skill saw, I guess it all just comes down to how much time the bad guys have to work on it.  I know that nothing is inpenitrable with enough time and tools.... that being said, I think I may be looking to add a few hundred dollars more to my budget, and find a safe with a little better quality as I would like to make it as hard a possible.
 
to each his own though......
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Reply #8 - 11/14/09 at 14:59:58
 
I have not yet decided if I will put my safe (once I buy one!) inside the house, or in the garage.  Inside is much preferable for convenience, but garage has some advantages.  If I go with the garage, I may first built a two sided concrete cinderblock half-room in a corner of the garage.  Once the safe is in place, I'd finish the third wall of that little cubby hole room (leaving the door side open), and add the top with more cinderblocks (cemented all around).  This little cubby-hole would protect the safe against tipping and attacks on the sides with drills, saws and torches.  Not total protection for sure, but unless the thieves were equipped with sledge hammers and willing to break down the outer concrete wall, they would be slowed down considerably.  I'm not talking about a full room, just a little three-sided semi-room barely big enough for the safe to squeeze into side to side and top to bottom.  It would cost very little to up your safes protection level in this manner.  And you could cheapy up the inside fire protection for small things (important papers, cameras, etc.) by putting a small firebox inside the safe, which already has fire protection as part of it's construction.  Or maybe just a fire-resistant fiberglass "bag" to hold papers in.  So you would have double layers of fire protection for the really important stuff.  What you're doing is taking a less expensive safe and bulking it up with some of your own labor.  You would probably spend many thousands more to buy a safe out-of-the-box with the same same protection level as your hybrid safe/cubby-hole.  I would be more willing to spend $2500-$3000 on a lesser safe initially and build this cubby-hole, than to spend $10,000 on the safe in the first place.  You could probably even get by with less than $2500 for the safe itself and still have good total protection in a concrete cubby-hole.
 
If I end up putting the safe inside, it will be bolted down somehow.  And heavier-duty than a garage safe I'd wall in myself.
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