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Reply #15 - 11/04/09 at 18:04:28
 
For those who clean after every firing session, do you field strip and clean or just swab the barrel and wipe out the chamber?
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Reply #16 - 11/04/09 at 18:17:36
 
Field strip, clean and relube/oil.
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Reply #17 - 11/05/09 at 03:31:20
 
Quote from Teacher on 11/04/09 at 18:04:28:
For those who clean after every firing session, do you field strip and clean or just swab the barrel and wipe out the chamber?

My self defense weapon, every trip it gets the works. Every 50 rounds a quick clean and lube and a full break down and lube before returning to service.  
Shep, if parts get worn they get replaced (I'm waiting on a 40 $ box of parts from KT right now to put in my range box, needed a refill  Wink)  an ya I paid for those parts, it's called wear and tear. I'm sure service would send em out free  if I need em but I like to stock up on what I may need.
 
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So, for fun; how clean is "clean enough"?

 Clean enough and in proper working order to trust my families life on,   Wink that clean...
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Reply #18 - 11/05/09 at 07:04:17
 
Good on ya, Teacher (a little Aussie slang, there Wink ).  As I typed my comment, it occurred to me that an extra take-down pin might be a good idea, along with various springs.  Besides the parts themselves, guide holes, etc can be worn out by careless handling--imagine if the take-down pin hole got wallowed out by excessive pin removal/installation.
 
I asked the "clean enough" question because when I first got into shooting, I went back to the Marine Corps "inspection" cleaning--get every spec of crud, dust whatever out of the piece.  Very time consuming.  I've since gone to the "clean enough" practice: the gun isn't going to be inspected by a DI, but I do want it to work!
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Reply #19 - 11/05/09 at 08:52:03
 
I don't necessarily disagree with the "clean it every time" approach.  But.....for a carry gun, the first shot after a cleaning/reassembly could be the shot that your life depends on.  wouldn't it be wise to have fired at least one shot after reassembly to make sure that you put it back together right?
 
Yeah....these guns (like most semis these days) are hard to screw up in a simple field strip and reassembly....but a function check can't be a bad idea......
 
(so then we are in the chicken/egg scenario; do we carry a slightly dirty gun....or an untested one?  I don't have the answer; these days, if I am planning on carrying (which I don't do too often), I just run a patch through and clean what I can, without a field strip, unless I fire it a lot)
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Reply #20 - 11/05/09 at 09:47:20
 
Quote from Peacemaker on 11/05/09 at 08:52:03:
I don't necessarily disagree with the "clean it every time" approach.  But.....for a carry gun, the first shot after a cleaning/reassembly could be the shot that your life depends on.  wouldn't it be wise to have fired at least one shot after reassembly to make sure that you put it back together right?

Yeah....these guns (like most semis these days) are hard to screw up in a simple field strip and reassembly....but a function check can't be a bad idea......

(so then we are in the chicken/egg scenario; do we carry a slightly dirty gun....or an untested one?  I don't have the answer; these days, if I am planning on carrying (which I don't do too often), I just run a patch through and clean what I can, without a field strip, unless I fire it a lot)

 
 
Good point. I always test using a snap cap after reassembly, but, I suppose,  that is not the same as actually firing a round.
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Reply #21 - 11/05/09 at 09:55:19
 
[quote author=shep854 link=1257278522/0#14 date=1257342918]For those who clean their guns a lot, be sure to do it gently.  You can damage a gun by cleaning, especially takedown pins, screws, etc.  Many military weapons have had finishes "cleaned" off, not to mention parts damage from excessive disassembly.
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Any reason not to use Gun Scrubber to clean, the version safe for polymer guns, and then gently oil and grease.  
 
Seems it would be less likely to damge the gun, no  brushes, rubbing the internal parts, etc. i use it on my other guns.
 
What do you think?
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Reply #22 - 11/05/09 at 10:05:42
 
I use a snap cap also but that does not tell me if the fp is moving.Any problem using a wooden dowl in the barrell to see if it jumps up by the fp strike? Or would that be the same as a dry fire? I use the dowl technique on most other guns.
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Re: Frequency Of Cleaning
Reply #23 - 11/05/09 at 10:24:23
 
Quote from fez on 11/05/09 at 10:05:42:
I use a snap cap also but that does not tell me if the fp is moving.Any problem using a wooden dowl in the barrell to see if it jumps up by the fp strike? Or would that be the same as a dry fire? I use the dowl technique on most other guns.

 Yep, same as dry firing.  The reason you should NOT dry fire is that the FP , without the resistance of a primer (or spring to immitate one) the FP travels fast and is suddenly stopped by reaching the end of it's travel with great force causing undue stress to the system.  A dowel, unlike a round or snap cap, would offer far less resistance.
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Reply #24 - 11/05/09 at 11:11:19
 
Curses,foiled agin. Smiley
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Reply #25 - 11/05/09 at 11:13:52
 
Quote from fez on 11/05/09 at 10:05:42:
I use a snap cap also but that does not tell me if the fp is moving.Any problem using a wooden dowl in the barrell to see if it jumps up by the fp strike? Or would that be the same as a dry fire? I use the dowl technique on most other guns.

 
The snap caps I use have a plastic "primer" that shows an indentation when the FP hits it. I wonder if you could touch this up once in a while by putting a drop of rubber cement into the indentation, so that you can continue to see whether the FP is striking it properly?
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Reply #26 - 11/05/09 at 11:41:57
 
I will bore snake and wipe the chamber and ramp clean after a range session. But i also use breakfree at every major cleaning and this product does not act like a regular oil product. It will not build up crud and all parts say free to work . When i do a good cleaning i do use a synthetic bore scrubber/brake cleaner. and again my main (oil) is break free clp.
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Reply #27 - 11/05/09 at 16:33:58
 
The point that will likely wear out and kill a PF9 is most likely the take-down pin hole.  Eventually, moving the steel pin through the aluminum frame will enlarge the hole to where the pin cannot stay in place.  When this happens, it will likely be cheaper to buy a new pistol; I can't imagine Kel-Tec replacing a frame (which is, after all, the 'real pistol' part) for such wear and tear.  How long this may take, I have no idea, but sloppy technique will speed it up.
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Reply #28 - 11/05/09 at 16:47:37
 
Quote from shep854 on 11/05/09 at 16:33:58:
I can't imagine Kel-Tec replacing a frame (which is, after all, the 'real pistol' part) for such wear and tear.  How long this may take, I have no idea, but sloppy technique will speed it up.

 
Why wouldn't Kel-Tec replace the frame under its lifetime warranty? If the hole enlarges from normal usage, rather then abuse, to the extent the gun is not usable, I can't imagine it not falling under the warranty.
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Reply #29 - 11/05/09 at 17:15:44
 
If accounts on KTOG are accurate, Kel Tec has replaced frames before with the original serial number transferred to the new frame
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