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EW3 YaBB Newbies A .32 in the pocket beats a .45 left at home Posts: 14 Gender:	Re: What's in your carry mag? Reply #225 - 02/16/10 at 23:58:23 I've decided, after much research, to stick to FMJ and the hotter European stuff. I have some Fiocchi on the way that will be my carry round for the P-32.
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What Brand of Ammo Do You Carry?
Reply #227 - 05/06/10 at 08:27:21

I realize availability is somewhat of an issue and not all brands are available throughout the country, but what is your favorite brand to carry as a SD load and what is your reasoning for carrying the ammo you carry? Do you prefer FMJ or JHP, or a combination of both as some have indicated with one JHP in the chamber and another on the top of the magazine?

Also, if you purchase your ammo on-line, what is the average cost including shipping per box of 50 or 20 in the case of some self defense rounds?

I've been around guns my entire life, but I'm still a newbie with the P32 and I'm trying to make sure I get full benefit of all the tools that are available to me.

Thanks in advance for your input!

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ericire12 Full Member Posts: 118 Gender:	Re: What Brand of Ammo Do You Carry? Reply #228 - 05/06/10 at 08:43:03 See everyone's choices here: http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1257609760
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Re: What Brand of Ammo Do You Carry?
Reply #229 - 05/06/10 at 11:15:31

Hi,

I use 65 Grain Federal JHP's Hydra-Shocks in my first magazine and S&B FMJ in my second magazine for a reload iif needed. I've done wetpack and water tests and the Hydra-Shocks have consistantly expanded with 10-11" of gelatin equivalent penetration. It isn't the 12" of the FBI standard , but I don't envision myself being in a Miami shootout situation either. The Sellier and Belliot do meet the the FBI penetration standards with 14"-15" of gelatin equivalent penetration. I have reload 85 gr. JHP and loads with an OAL of 0.975", that expanded to 45-50 caliber and did meet the FBI penetration standard.

I don't buy my ammo on-line, but the last time I bought locally, 32 ACP Hydra-Shoks they ran $21 for a box of 20 and the S&B FMJ runs $6.50-$7.95 for a box of 25. I hope the info helps.

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Re: What Brand of Ammo Do You Carry?
Reply #231 - 05/06/10 at 12:31:47

Currently I carry in the .32 Auto - PMC JHP (they feed the best- as with all my SD firearms I have tested a few hundred rounds through of each that I can get)
As for expansion, it is a catch 22 - as with a few others I carry a backup magazine of FMJ (I use S&B 71grn) as the expansion tests were a bit off regardless of JHP (brand name inserted here)

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Syndil Grand Poobah Μολών λαβέ Posts: 3552 Gender:	Re: What Brand of Ammo Do You Carry? Reply #232 - 05/06/10 at 14:30:09 Request mods merge this with http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1257609760
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MphsTiger1981 Junior Member I Love YaBB 2! Posts: 82 Gender:	Re: What Brand of Ammo Do You Carry? Reply #233 - 05/06/10 at 16:01:01 Sorry for the duplicate thread regarding this topic. I did not see the other thread.
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Brettov Junior Member IN FERRO VERITAS Posts: 75	Re: What Brand of Ammo Do You Carry? Reply #234 - 05/08/10 at 00:32:36 I have been using the S&B FMJs for some time now . They just feed flawlessly in this P32 so I am confident with that load in my BUG . If I had to use it , it would mean something had gone seriously wrong and I was down to my BUG . I would be wanting penetration .
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Reply #236 - 06/02/10 at 12:13:26

Might want to read this Twinz:

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1274450436/8#8

The short version is that there is no such thing as +P in .32; the weight of the BB round is 73 grains (just like other FMJ rounds), not the advertised 75; and its performance out of the Kel-Tec matches other much cheaper 73gr rounds.

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Re: What's in your carry mag?
Reply #237 - 06/02/10 at 16:38:42

Quote from twinz on 05/31/10 at 12:35:16:

Buffalo Bore 75gr +P two mags full

Hello,

As Syndil said there is no real advantage of the Buffalo Bore "+P 32 ACP" over S&B FMJ in bullet weight or velocity. One could argue that Buffalo Bore "+P 32 ACP is actually inferior since it can rimlock because it doen't meet CIP ansd SAAMI minimum OAL requirements. S&B FMJ ammo doesn't have this problem, and is much less expensive.

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Re: What's in your carry mag?
Reply #238 - 06/06/10 at 09:44:05

Two more top flight contenders are out.

Quote from big-foot on 06/06/10 at 00:24:51:

http://www.dakotaammo.net/Self-Defense-DPX/32-Auto-60gr-Self-Defense-DPX/DPX3260 -20/200/Product

Corbon released some penetration data at Stopping Power forum.

"The 32 auto DPX load clocked at @ 950 fps, penetrated 9" ( I was surprised) and recovered diameter was .60".

The 32 auto PowRball clocked at @ 1125 fps ( yes from a Kel tec P32). Penetration was 7" with recovered diameter of.58".

These results were obtained using a 4 layer denim barrier in front of 6x6x16" blocks of 10% ballistic gelatin.

I was pretty satisfied with these results. We need to remember, it is a 32 auto!"

http://www.stoppingpower.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18507

The test data doesn't sound right to me. Usually bullets fired into covered gel penetrate further and expand less than bare gel, time will tell though.

In JHP, these are going to be difficult if not impossible to beat. Cool

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Re: What's in your carry mag?
Reply #239 - 06/08/10 at 01:53:02

Tiger.

If you check the various topics here along these lines the 2 brands that seem to come up, consistently, as great performers for both range practice...and...SD are the FMJ versions of both Fiocchi and S&B (Sellot & Belloit?).

They seem to feed and fire consistently and accurately through the P32 for everyone.

Plus if you look around they end up being some of the least expensive .32ACP around, going down as low as $9.50/50 up to about $19.50/50.

After that all other brands and types of ammo receive a wide variety of views.

That doesn't mean in any way that other brands and types are the least bit bad.
Just that if you aren't sure and are simply looking for some practice ammo and carry ammo for the time being while you check others out you can't really go wrong with those 2.

Personally I use the cheapest factory ammo I can find for practice (usually FMJ versions of Fiocchi. S&B and Aquilar).

For SD I'm presently loading with CorBon Pow'RBall.

Corbon also just came out with their DPX (Deep Penetrating) line in this caliber. If it works as well as it does in all the other calibers they load it in it would seem to be a pretty good bet also.

My only warning: My personal P32, and that of a few others I have seen posting here, can't tolerate Corbon's straight JHP rounds. They shake my gun so bad it feels like it will fall apart and I had the only 2 malfunctions in my gun in some 1,000 rds with it. I was worried I would have the same experience with the Pow'RBall but so far so good. I think it's because Corbon has a reputation of using pretty hot loads. I obviously stay away from it but, for those who have no such problems that particular loading is one of the most popular here for SD.
So go figure.

I guess practice, error and research are the best ways to go in making a decision for your personal weapon.

Have fun.

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