Quote from imyomama on 07/26/10 at 17:26:00:
...there is this rule that you can't see that section till you got 25 posts so i tried to post about all I know so far and all I wanted to know since my RFB is still on order to get to 25 so i could order the darn thing.
You missed the point of the 25 post rule for Trading Post access. If you don't want to read the
Welcome To KTOG post that explains the reasoning behind the rule, then at least try to look at it from someone else's perspective, rather than just seeing the rule only in terms of the minor inconvenience it presents to you. Nobody has any motivation to encourage you to make 25 short posts, mostly devoid of any significant content, in order to access the Trading Post. Quite the contrary, in fact. At no time were you discouraged from posting questions about the RFB. We love questions, and gladly answer the same questions over and over. You weren't criticized or discouraged in any way from posting some wildly enthusiastic content-free messages about the RFB. Most of us have been there. You were simply asked not to post the same thing in a bunch of different threads in an attempt to bump your post count so you could access the Trading Post.
It should be obvious, but the reason for the 25 post requirement isn't all about you, the newbie buyer. The 25 post requirement is an attempt to provide some minimal assurance to those selling in the Trading Post. If you're a contributing member in the KTOG community, and it IS a community, then the seller can read your posts and determine if you are someone he might want to trade with. If you post a bunch of nearly identical "someone post some ten shot groups" posts, a seller doesn't have any good basis for a trading decision, although it definitely does say something about your character.
Quote from imyomama on 07/26/10 at 17:26:00:
I hope you're not directly affiliated with kel-tec.
Just a satisfied customer. I have no other affiliation with Kel-Tec.
Quote from imyomama on 07/26/10 at 17:26:00:
...so forgive me grand master for getting excited about this rifle and posting more than I should so I can get to the market place to order more things for this gun...
Just so we're clear, posting a lot isn't a problem, and being excited about the RFB obviously isn't a problem. The problem arises when you try to circumvent the rules by making numerous nearly identical posts to increase your post count so you can access the Trading Post, and in doing so you are inconsiderate to the active RFB community that logs in to KTOG to see if there is any new RFB news, or to try to help someone with a question or a problem, and they read your same "post some ten shot groups" message in most of the threads on the front page of the RFB forum. That behavior is so offensive that it's one of the few ways to be banned from KTOG. But don't take my word for it. I'm just the guy who deletes the occasional spam and tries to offer helpful suggestions to get new members off to a good start. If you follow the link I provided above and do a little bit of reading, you'll find the following quote from the *REAL* KTOG moderator.
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Since the Trading Post and the Counter tend to contain more personal information and involve issues of trust, we felt it appropriate that they should be restricted to members who have established some rapport with the group. All other boards, the ones that contain technical data, are open to anyone. So, if a Guest/Newbie wants to post in the Counter or buy and sell in the Trading Post, they'll have to register and make 25 meaningful posts in any of the other 19 boards on KTOG. Posting a string of one-liners in an obvious attempt to circumvent this policy is cause for banishment.
It's easy to find. It's just above "How to Get Banned in 7 Minutes or Less", showing a series of short posts used to bump up a post count for access to the Trading Post.
You are more than welcome to ask questions, make comments, share your excitement about the RFB, and even offer criticisms of the RFB, but don't engage in post wh0ring in an attempt to circumvent the rules you didn't bother to read to get instant Trading Post access. KTOG is a cool place, and that's not cool.
I hope none of the regulars who know all of this stuff read this far, but if you did, I apologize for the non-RFB diversion.