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Freedom1 New Member Posts: 21 |
posted April 09, 2001 03:17 PM
    
Well I sent my P32 in for chrome job and explained to Carolyn that when I have a full magazine inserted and I release the slide the first round will not chamber. I got the gun today with heavier recoil springs. Now the slide will not pull back far enough to get behind the bullet to chamber it.If I put an unloaded magazine in the slide will not stay open because it can't move back far enough to get behind the magazine. I called Carolyn back she said mix and match the springs to get the right compination. I tried the new stronger inner spring with my older outer spring that combination will let the slide get far enough back but still not strong enough to load the first shell. Whenever I try to use the longer outer spring it won't alow the slide to move back far enough. If I cut a little off the stronger spring will it work? Does a spring for this pistol have to be longer to be stronger because thats the problem I think. Any Ideas friends? ------------------
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ByronF New Member Posts: 20 |
posted April 09, 2001 04:49 PM
Spring behavior is too complicated for such generalities. The terms 'weaker' and 'stronger' are ambiguous, as the amount of preload is unspecified. Here's an example: FACT: When compressed by X inches, a longer spring (more coils) is softer than a shorter spring with the same coil pitch. However, when you have to compress them onto the same spring guide, the longer one experiences more preload than the short one. Some experimentation can help to determine the effect, but it isn't always clear cut. Generally, cutting coils will make a spring stiffer, even when preload is a factor. Byron ------------------
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Freedom1 New Member Posts: 21 |
posted April 09, 2001 11:53 PM
Byron, I did'nt think my question was so difficult..:) Let me simplify it.My P32 when loaded with a full magazine will not feed the first round into the chamber.I told KelTec this and they sent me springs that are longer(KelTec springs)but look the same in every other way.When installed they will not allow my slide to move back far enough to operate properly. Thank god for KelTec costomer service which will replace this pistol if it will not function properly.
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J.R. Bob Dobbs Member Posts: 42 |
posted April 10, 2001 05:14 AM
If your springs are "coil binding", that is, compressing until all the coils touch each other, cutting the spring to remove a few coils might fix the coil bind problem. It's probably worth a try; you aren't really hurting anything but possibly a spring that doesn't seem to work anyway. If it works, great! If not, send the gun to KT and they will fix it. The P32 is a great little gun; if you like the gun, don't give up on it, it will eventually function reliably. ------------------
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ByronF New Member Posts: 20 |
posted April 10, 2001 10:17 AM
I wonder if they sent you their 9mm springs? I don't have a 9, but I'd bet the spring is longer. Yep, I'd probably cut coils until the slide will just lock back, then give it a try. Might need to take off more so that the slide will have a 'running start' into the back of the next round. Hard to say. I'd probably cut coils until the slide was just able to hold back on the last round. Then test fire a box of ammo. If you still have problems, I'd cut a half coil at a time until it either functioned reliably or became curiously short. If it gets too short you will batter your gun. Byron ------------------
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DaStray New Member Posts: 6 |
posted April 10, 2001 10:36 AM
Per JR Bob Dobbs, "...don`t give up on it, it will eventually function reliably". I`ve got to hand it to you guys, you sure do support Kel Tec, even if it doesn`t work. Most would write e-mails in disgust but not you guys. I just recently purchased a P-32 this past weekend and really DO like it alot. However, if I couldn`t get it to work, even with factory help, I don`t think I`d be extolling it`s virtues. ------------------
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alamo Member Posts: 98 |
posted April 10, 2001 11:31 AM
DaStray - Our P-32s DO work, that's why we like them. Your comment makes no sense. Freedom1's problem seems to be easily corrected by changing springs. If that doesn't work, KT will fix it. Most P-32s function fine out of the box. If they don't, a little tweaking or a trip to the factory will take care of it. You would certainly have a valid complaint if KT had poor customer service or wasn't able to fix it (then they would replace it). It is probably not surprising that a gun this small and light can be finicky about some things like springs or ammo. ------------------
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DaStray New Member Posts: 6 |
posted April 10, 2001 11:41 AM
Perhaps I misread the earlier threads but hasn`t KT already sent springs to Freedom 1 to correct the problem ? Thus, I don`t see how my comment doesn`t "make sense" since the gun STILL doesn`t work. No flames here and I certainly don`t want to step on any toes but I was just making an observation. The primary reason I got the P-32 this past weekend was due to the customer service and stated reliability. ------------------
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Freedom1 New Member Posts: 21 |
posted April 10, 2001 07:37 PM
Well today I tried cutting the new longer spring shorter little by little. Funny thing happened the slide would not move back far enough until I had cut the longer spring back to the same length as the original spring. Still will not chamber first round of full magazine. This gun is a LEMON a damn LEMON. TIME to VENT... I have owned guns since childhood including bb,pellet,22,38 45,High Standard 22,35 rem,30.06,1100 this is the worst gun at any price I have ever owned. ------------------
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mk1iii New Member Posts: 5 |
posted April 10, 2001 07:49 PM
Lemons do happen unfortunately. My father's P32 was a turd and it's at KelTec right now hopefully getting fixed. Dispite this I still see the P32 as a great firearm and had to get one for myself. Mine's perfect. Couldn't be happier. Crap shoot I guess. ------------------
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alamo Member Posts: 98 |
posted April 10, 2001 11:13 PM
You must be snakebit. I've never heard a bad word about Kel-Tec's chrome, only raves. Send it back. ------------------
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MIKE Member Posts: 229 |
posted April 11, 2001 12:41 AM
Don't be too concerned, the P-32 is one of the finest guns ever made. Send it back until it is right. Mine has about 1500 rounds through it, and it is a gem. Yours can be also. Mike ------------------
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moe New Member Posts: 2 |
posted April 12, 2001 07:31 AM
Just discovered this bullitin board and joined to respond to this post. I purchased a p32 in november after reading some very positive reviews. To keep it brief-I am now on my 4th gun. The first 2 misfired badly, and the third had a loose extractor pin that score the frame. To kel-tecs credit they keep sending new guns, but it's hard to trust the reliability after all these examples of poor quality. This doesn't even start to address issues of wasted range fees, shipping, frustration, ammo,etc. Never had the slightest problems with my Glock.( It's just too big for me to carry) If this wasn't the smallest 32 around I think I'd give up. ------------------
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brad New Member Posts: 13 |
posted April 12, 2001 08:45 AM
a suggestion-why not just get wolff springs and be done with it-you know,2 birds with 1 stone.:) ------------------
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Bwana New Member Posts: 24 |
posted April 12, 2001 09:11 AM
Moe, how's the fourth gun working? If anyone cares, I would be willing to pay more upfront for a P-32 if it meant KT would do better quality control before sending the guns out for sale. My gun is perfect now, but, like so many others, I had to send it back once. A gun that can be depended on to work out of the box w/o home gunsmithing would be worth paying more for. I can't help but think it would be more efficient in the long run for KT, too. It has to be pretty expensive for them to spend all this time fixing guns.
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moe New Member Posts: 2 |
posted April 12, 2001 10:29 AM
I now have 50 rounds throgh my 4th p32 without a misfire or failure to feed.I should not have to celebrate this milestone. This was a $300 gun, not a $49.95 special. They should be more reliable out of the box ,and I too would pay more for better quality. Or perhaps they should include a few hundred rounds of ammo and some prepaid fed-ex return mailers with each purchase for off site testing and qualty control. ------------------
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Freedom1 New Member Posts: 21 |
posted April 12, 2001 01:44 PM
Just to let everybody know I have not had time to sent my junk back to KeTec yet. Also I found something else which I would not consider normal wear. The breach face where it hits the top of the barrel when closing is getting a dent in it. I just love this gun!!!!!! I'm so happy I could cry....
[This message has been edited by Freedom1 (edited April 12, 2001).]
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plinker New Member Posts: 9 |
posted April 12, 2001 02:43 PM
I feel so sorry for you freedom.Mine has worked great out of the box(didn't even fluff and buff and don't plan too)mines in the 37*** range.but,I know how you feel.I had the same kind of problems with beretta 21a's went through about 6 before I got one that worked.but,I really liked the pistol and wouldn't give up.I really needed the onion field insurance.If you really like it. persevere. ------------------
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